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Post by arden on Jun 12, 2007 18:51:44 GMT -5
June 12, 2007
PRESS RELEASE
JOURNEY ANNOUNCES DEPARTURE OF JEFF SCOTT SOTO
June 12, 2007 -- Journey has parted ways with their recently named lead singer Jeff Scott Soto. Jeff’s first appearance with Journey was July 7, 2006 in Bristow, VA. He had been filling in for Steve Augeri, who had to leave the tour shortly after it began on June 23 due to illness. Jeff’s last performance was May 12, 2007 in Leesburg, VA.
According to guitarist Neal Schon, “We appreciate all of Jeff’s hard work and we can’t thank him enough for stepping in when Steve Augeri got sick last year. He did a tremendous job for us and we wish him the best. We’ve just decided to go our separate ways, no pun intended. We’re plotting our next move now."
Keyboardist Jonathan Cain continues, “We were lucky to have a friend who was already a Journey fan step in on a moment’s notice during the Def Leppard tour to help us out. Jeff was always the consummate professional and we hope that he remains a friend of the band in the future. We just felt it was time to go in a different direction.”
Journey--Neal Schon (guitar), Ross Valory (bass), Jonathan Cain (keyboards) and Deen Castronovo (drums)—is taking the rest of 2007 off to spend time with their families, write new songs and map out plans for 2008.
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Post by arden on Jun 12, 2007 19:36:42 GMT -5
Jon Cain...it's always Jon, isn't it...is going to be on KNBR tomorrow morning.
Some numbers here from their website -
680 STUDIO: 808-KNBR (to talk with show hosts on-air, from area codes 415, 408, 650, 510, 925 or 707)
FAX: (415) 995-6867
BUSINESS: (415) 995-6800
Free cellphone line for MetroPCS subscribers in the Bay Area: *KNBR (or *5627)
KNBR WHINE LINE: (415) 995-6998
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Post by sexxymofo on Jun 12, 2007 20:03:30 GMT -5
I didn't like Soto for the fact that he called fans dickheads . I never once said he wasn't a good talent and he could't continue singing the dirty dozen for Journey cause that is all they've done for what 10 years. However I must admit what is being done to him is just plain wrong. I wonder if these Perry haters finally have their Journey blinders off ??
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Post by arden on Jun 12, 2007 20:14:53 GMT -5
I think JSS made a huge mistake aligning himself too closely with the filth at the Crock. Calling Perry's fans dickheads didn't do him any good either. I didn't like Soto for the fact that he called fans dickheads . I never once said he wasn't a good talent and he could't continue singing the dirty dozen for Journey cause that is all they've done for what 10 years. However I must admit what is being done to him is just plain wrong. I wonder if these Perry haters finally have their Journey blinders off ??
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Post by sexxymofo on Jun 12, 2007 20:31:35 GMT -5
Oh I agree THAT was very uncalled for! Well isn't it funny how he didn't know this was going on yet all along he was keeping all those people "informed" on what Journey was gonna do next, LOL!! Who do you suppose will be the new guy? I've read it might be Jeremey from Frontiers is that true? I dunno why ANYONE in their right mind would take that spot. Before they know it they kick'em in the ass and they're out without an explenation to them nor their fans..And remember "easy come, easy go" Good luck to next fool!
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Post by arden on Jun 12, 2007 20:45:28 GMT -5
I can't imagine a WORSE choice than Jeremy Hunsucker!!! Talk about becoming a tribute band!!! They would be caricatures of themselves for sure. Would Jeremy do the gig wearing his tails and Perry wig?? This is the guy who claimed he wasn't a Perry impersonator, but yet used to dress up just like Perry all the way down to the Nike swoosh shoes!! It make me shudder to even think about that fiasco. Oh I agree THAT was very uncalled for! Well isn't it funny how he didn't know this was going on yet all along he was keeping all those people "informed" on what Journey was gonna do next, LOL!! Who do you suppose will be the new guy? I've read it might be Jeremey from Frontiers is that true? I dunno why ANYONE in their right mind would take that spot. Before they know it they kick'em in the ass and they're out without an explenation to them nor their fans..And remember "easy come, easy go" Good luck to next fool!
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Post by sexxymofo on Jun 12, 2007 21:01:28 GMT -5
Holy crap!! I didn't know that he dressed up like Perry bet that was a sight to behold I dunno why they are being so hush hush about whom the next karaoke singer will be nothing surprises me anymore. d**n it all of this overshadowed the Soprano news I am so very happy for Perry he is getting the respect he so deserves.
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Post by arden on Jun 12, 2007 21:22:33 GMT -5
The Perry article is posted in icubud's original thread about Sopranos and Journey. I think it's great that Steve made them tell him the ending before he would give his approval. The pics of Jeremy in full "costume" used to be on his site. I don't have the link anymore, but he used to plaster it all over the Crock and BT, so I'm sure you can get it easily. I can't believe he denies being an impersonator and then posts links to pics proving otherwise. Holy crap!! I didn't know that he dressed up like Perry bet that was a sight to behold I dunno why they are being so hush hush about whom the next karaoke singer will be nothing surprises me anymore. d**n it all of this overshadowed the Soprano news I am so very happy for Perry he is getting the respect he so deserves.
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Post by properry on Jun 12, 2007 23:09:54 GMT -5
Well it wouldn't matter to me who they get to sing for Journey, it would HAVE to be Perry for me to support Journey. The ONLY one that can bring them back the success is Perry. They won't accomplish that with any other singer. It is great that "Don't Stop Believin" got the huge amount of recognition that it did on the Sopranos. I couldn't wait to watch Soprano's that night to find out what was going to happen to the Soprano family , but I certainly never thought I was going to be hearing that sweet voice singing on the show...... that was the best!!!
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Post by happycamper on Jun 12, 2007 23:58:10 GMT -5
After reading a post of Jeremys in the "Freddy Mercury" thread at Mr., I have no use for him. He trashed Perry in that thread and yet he imitates him? Never could figure that out.
Deen is my guess for new lead. Can't imagine who else might even come close.
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Post by sexxymofo on Jun 13, 2007 0:40:37 GMT -5
It may very well be Deen C who knows. All I know is whomever it is I wish you luck, patience and above all staying power cause I know you have to be very aware of what has transpired and THAT my friend will be your fate as well !!
Arden, I could not locate any picture of JH as Perry. It sounded very creepy and that is why I was interested in looking at it ;D
Anyone have any idea as to when the big announcement of the new lead will take place??
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Post by sparkle2 on Jun 13, 2007 8:12:17 GMT -5
I didn't like Soto for the fact that he called fans dickheads . I never once said he wasn't a good talent and he could't continue singing the dirty dozen for Journey cause that is all they've done for what 10 years. However I must admit what is being done to him is just plain wrong. I wonder if these Perry haters finally have their Journey blinders off ?? Soto said that? >:(Jerk And I always like him. How did I miss that, lol. I try to lurk at the Crock sometimes for info, but it's hard to wade through all the b.s. I wondered if something was up when Neal & Jon were all butterflies and rainbows about making an album this summer with JSS but then all of a sudden JSS made a beeline back to his old band as soon as the Journey tour was done. The official statement said "parted ways" - does anyone know if he quit or was fired? BT is down. Well this will be interesting to "watch". I hope Perry is ROFL. Paging Hugo!
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Post by arden on Jun 13, 2007 8:44:37 GMT -5
www.frontiers.smugmug.com/It looks like he has changed his website. I didn't see the pics of him in full costume, but I didn't look through the whole site. He is still wearing the tails. He has posted at the Crock that he is not the next lead singer for Journey, and he is offended that people were calling him a joke. It may very well be Deen C who knows. All I know is whomever it is I wish you luck, patience and above all staying power cause I know you have to be very aware of what has transpired and THAT my friend will be your fate as well !! Arden, I could not locate any picture of JH as Perry. It sounded very creepy and that is why I was interested in looking at it ;D Anyone have any idea as to when the big announcement of the new lead will take place??
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Post by arden on Jun 13, 2007 8:47:13 GMT -5
This was just released by JSS Promotions. Seems JSS was shocked, too. This could get interesting.
"Rest assured that we will inform you of news as it evolves, as this is a great shock for us all, especially Jeff. Jeff appreciates your support and loyalty at this difficult time and is thankful to all the fans, old and new who have supported him over the years, especially during the recent Journey shows. He hopes to see you all on the road again soon.
An official Press Release by Jeff himself will be released shortly. "
Richard
JSS Promotions
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Post by sparkle2 on Jun 13, 2007 10:04:49 GMT -5
Oh boy. Something big must've happened - surely even someone as dim-witted as Schon would realize that JSS was their best hope...I'm sure we'll never know, unless JSS is upset enough to dish...let the speculation begin! Here are some guesses: *JSS not willing to be ordered around and/or made to tour constantly, fired for insubordination *Other guys jealous of JSS personal fame outside Journey *Can't afford him without record deal * Got somebody better...ok, I'm not going there! Oh well, at least we have something to talk about now! sparkle
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Post by properry on Jun 13, 2007 11:05:02 GMT -5
Well for me , I find Jonathan's answer that they felt it was time to go a different direction to be the most telling. Jeff was suprised by his firing , but it doesn't suprise me, they did it to Perry, and he was the one that gave them the MOST of the other two singers! That is far more upsetting to me what they did to him, than firing Jeff now. Anyway , I remember on on sky's & franks board having a discussion about the way Neal was talking negatively about Perry & Augeri in an article. Some of the fans were upset by Neal bad mouthing Perry & Augeri. It was said by some of the fans this could happen to JSS too. I guess that wind is blowing a different direction again for Neal & Jon. oh well, I'll always stick with Perry!
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Post by flossy on Jun 13, 2007 14:56:15 GMT -5
I think Cain probably said its me or JSS, he probably didn't like his style on stage or behind the scenes. For crying out loud everyone knows he leaks out everything bad about the band to MR thru you know who. He'll continue to do so I'm sure, he's got loose lips. There is absolutely no mystique about JSS, Perry had that so going for him.
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Post by sexxymofo on Jun 15, 2007 2:16:42 GMT -5
Well he can't very well act surprised, friendship aside he had to have known he was not a good fit. Hell Cain & Neal knew it why didn't he? It was a chance of a lifetime he lived it now move on to something bigger and better. The next replacement better think long and hard before taking the job! Plus I don't think they have much time left so his time will be short. The only way to save face is by doing a reunion and then hanging it up, BUT I can't stress this enough IT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED A LONG TIME AGO & WITH PERRY! The Journey name has been dragged through the mud one too many times for these past 10 years it is really a shame to call myself a Journey fan. Even when I hear a song on radio or tv they have ruined the legacy and my enjoyment of Perry in the band. Maybe that's what they wanted to do all along jealousy makes one do strange things.
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Post by sparkle2 on Jun 15, 2007 8:35:11 GMT -5
Everyone is probably lawyering up, it will be interesting to hear JSS's side of the story, if we ever do. As usual, the whole thing was handled with Schon & co.'s usual class and tact (SNORT). I thought JSS was an improvement over Augeri, although I realize that's not saying a whole lot, most ANYBODY would have been an improvement over Augeri. Oh well. I think Journey better come up with something pretty spectacular or they are history. No great loss. At least some of the diehards are beginning to realize that Perry probably wasn't totally to blame for the original split, after seeing Journey kick 2 other guys to the curb in a year's time...
sparkle
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Post by properry on Jun 15, 2007 10:49:15 GMT -5
Well he can't very well act surprised, friendship aside he had to have known he was not a good fit. Hell Cain & Neal knew it why didn't he? It was a chance of a lifetime he lived it now move on to something bigger and better. The next replacement better think long and hard before taking the job! Plus I don't think they have much time left so his time will be short. The only way to save face is by doing a reunion and then hanging it up, BUT I can't stress this enough IT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED A LONG TIME AGO & WITH PERRY! The Journey name has been dragged through the mud one too many times for these past 10 years it is really a shame to call myself a Journey fan. Even when I hear a song on radio or tv they have ruined the legacy and my enjoyment of Perry in the band. Maybe that's what they wanted to do all along jealousy makes one do strange things. It's really sad the way Neal & Jon have led Journey into the ground. I realize that Perry does not want to go back to Journey,( I don't blame him for that), but really the ONLY WAY to bring Journey back UP from the ground is WITH Perry, HE is the only one that can save this band now!! And Sexxymofo, IF Neal & Jon did that out of jealousy, that is just terribly sad, least we know that Perry CARES about Journey, and the way the music is represented to the fans.
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Post by Bill on Jun 16, 2007 12:54:05 GMT -5
First off I am not tryin to stir any pot, but when did JSS call Perry fans dickheads? Doesn't seem like him to say that from other things I read from or about him. Jeremy is a decent singer, i don't get the wig and outfit stuff but as a singer he sounded decent but maybe not my first choice (as if I have any choice hehe), seriously though I hope he and his wife are doing ok, i read a quick mention there were some issues going on for them and a pregnancy etc. Second, maybe jon and neal were watching ROCK STAR where they used a tribute band lead singer to replace their original singer (loosely based on real story of judas priest) if there is any truth to them considering a frontman from one of the tribute bands out there. Bill
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Post by arden on Jun 16, 2007 13:18:13 GMT -5
forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=21204&postdays=0&postorder&start=30More specifically he called A Perry fan a thingy. JSS Certified Rock God Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 263 heardonthestreet wrote: Fuller, as in louder or shouting and bellowed as in full of hot air. Fuller as in your big f**k**g head, bellowed as in your dumbass opinion...suck ass!!! Oh...& have a nice day thingy First off I am not tryin to stir any pot, but when did JSS call Perry fans dickheads? Doesn't seem like him to say that from other things I read from or about him. Jeremy is a decent singer, i don't get the wig and outfit stuff but as a singer he sounded decent but maybe not my first choice (as if I have any choice hehe), seriously though I hope he and his wife are doing ok, i read a quick mention there were some issues going on for them and a pregnancy etc. Second, maybe jon and neal were watching ROCK STAR where they used a tribute band lead singer to replace their original singer (loosely based on real story of judas priest) if there is any truth to them considering a frontman from one of the tribute bands out there. Bill
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Post by arden on Jun 16, 2007 13:26:49 GMT -5
THINGY?!?!?!?! LOL!!!! Well, I guess we have a censor in place here at the Hotel!!! ;D
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Post by properry on Jun 16, 2007 14:11:55 GMT -5
Oh yea, you 'd be suprised Bill, Soto did do that to a fan on that other board. I believe he called her some bad names twice the time below, and another time, but then later apologized to the fan.
It took another fan to bring it to his attention that it wasn't a nice way for a guy to talk that way to lady fan, before he did it though.
Lots goes on on that other board that people don't see, and don't know why some of us have the feeling we do about certain things.
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Post by Bill on Jun 16, 2007 17:00:14 GMT -5
SO JSSat that forum is confirmed to be THE real JSS? I did read around on that thread a bit seemed a bit harsh altho most posts there seem harsh back and forth to each other. Why cant they all just get along hehe Bill
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Post by sexxymofo on Jun 16, 2007 18:13:31 GMT -5
Yes it is the real JSS he is Andrews Best Friend..............lol He called *heardonthestreet* a "Dikkhead" and a "suck ass" and God knows what else. THAT alone is grounds maybe for removal who know maybe Journey's mgmnt did take kindly to that. Honestly I don't know but was very wrong.
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Post by properry on Jun 16, 2007 20:40:40 GMT -5
Yes Bill, sexxymofo is right, it was the real JSS , and the nic *Heardonthestreet* did not deserve it either, but as I said , he later came back and apologized for it.
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Post by arden on Jun 17, 2007 16:57:02 GMT -5
I found this on the "blog". It's an interesting take on things. While I believe that Jon was threatened by JSS writing with Neal, and both of them were probably jealous of the attention JSS garnered, it still isn't grounds for firing particularly in the way that it was done.
realtruth said... What's different this time is that JT found out that JSS was passing out backstage passes to RockinDrunko and his trailer trash buddies using a fake name...Trevor. Management, the band and fans were being mislead about JSS's involvement with Deano and his crusade against Augeri.
Anonymous said... Deano, During Journey's time with JSS you were posting how you love those guys, and how friendly you are with NS and JC and JSS.
However, during that time, there was the tapegate issue and the bashing of SA You still remained friends with them regardless of them scaming us fans with tapes.
Remember you were the one carrying water for Neal, about him not knowing about the use of the canned vocals during live performances. Which would be technically impossible.
(if you knew anything about live sound reinforcment, you would know Neal's denial to be untrue)
Why are you so angry this time? There is no different between last year and this year.
Replacing SA was a business decision and replacing JSS likewise. BOTH firings could have been handled differenlty. Considering the nature of the music industry this is not out of the ordinary.
What's different this time? Ms Curious
June 17, 2007 11:24 AM
June 17, 2007 12:12 PM
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Post by sparkle2 on Jun 26, 2007 8:25:02 GMT -5
I just find it bizarre that they are replacing someone as popular and talented as JSS with a Steve Perry impersonator (if the rumours are true). Someone on another board expressed it perfectly, imho - something like "morally sh*tty and commercially stupid" but then those guys aren't known for brains...apparantly they are happy to just be a nostalgia act. Guess it's back to the rodeo circuit for the band formerly known as Journey...
sparkle
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Post by spmusic49 on Jul 26, 2007 23:36:16 GMT -5
June 12, 2007 PRESS RELEASE JOURNEY ANNOUNCES DEPARTURE OF JEFF SCOTT SOTO June 12, 2007 -- Journey has parted ways with their recently named lead singer Jeff Scott Soto. Jeff’s first appearance with Journey was July 7, 2006 in Bristow, VA. He had been filling in for Steve Augeri, who had to leave the tour shortly after it began on June 23 due to illness. Jeff’s last performance was May 12, 2007 in Leesburg, VA. According to guitarist Neal Schon, “We appreciate all of Jeff’s hard work and we can’t thank him enough for stepping in when Steve Augeri got sick last year. He did a tremendous job for us and we wish him the best. We’ve just decided to go our separate ways, no pun intended. We’re plotting our next move now." Keyboardist Jonathan Cain continues, “We were lucky to have a friend who was already a Journey fan step in on a moment’s notice during the Def Leppard tour to help us out. Jeff was always the consummate professional and we hope that he remains a friend of the band in the future. We just felt it was time to go in a different direction.” Journey--Neal Schon (guitar), Ross Valory (bass), Jonathan Cain (keyboards) and Deen Castronovo (drums)—is taking the rest of 2007 off to spend time with their families, write new songs and map out plans for 2008. That bolded phrase is a crock of crap. The new direction Journey is taking is to "sound like those 65 million units out there". Hows that for a new direction? (They will be riding on the Perry years until they retire.) Journey had a new direction, had they kept Soto, but I believe that the passion has gone out of the rest of Journey. It is just a job to them now. And maybe factor in that there was possibly some very strong male personalities clashing. Or maybe they don't want to WORK at writing new material. Arden, you don't know if how Jeff posts or who he kept company with had anything to do with Jeff's firing. That is just pure speculation on your part. And there have been reports of Neal and Jon being not so nice to the fans as well. So don't lay it on Jeff's lap as being the cause. Mofo, Jeff only called one Perry fan a bodypart ( and they may had it coming to them), not all Perry fans. . Get your facts straight before posting. Jeff doing a farewell tour with his band, Talisman, probably wasn't why he got fired. The guys in Journey knew about this beforehand, since it had already been planned before Jeff bailed them out. Arden, so what if Jeremey wears tails. Go look at Hugo when he does Perry. He has his hair cut like Perry, wears clothes exactly like Perry, and tries to sing just like Perry. Now that is a Perry impersonator. Or how about this.......... maybe Jon had some issues with Jeff. Neal had already worked with Jeff, so he knew how Jeff works the stage. On the other hand, Jon had never worked with Jeff...... And btw, Journey did have a record deal offered to them while Jeff fronted the band. That vanished when Jeff was fired. Jeff said that based on what was said between Neal and Jon. And don't forget that was also said in the press release that Journey put out when Jeff was named new singer. How was Jeff to know what was going on in the minds of Neal and Jon. Was he supposed to read their minds? Neal and Jon are two faced pieces of crap who will say one thing to your face, and do another. It is amazing how things can be possibly blown out of proportion or blamed on one person or thing. I make sure I research stuff before posting.
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