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Post by icubud on Nov 9, 2007 12:46:25 GMT -5
Been watching some old videos of Journey.  Dear Mr. Steve Perry and Mr. Neal Schon Will you two please bury the hatchet and make the music that you two and your million plus fans MISS SO desperately? Please... time is running out. Time waits for NO ONE. Please! A loyal fan, Kevin/icubud |
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Post by happycamper on Nov 9, 2007 14:48:39 GMT -5
If it never happens, I'll always wonder if it's because Perry told Jon that "There is no going back," when they went on without him.
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Post by properry on Nov 9, 2007 17:00:19 GMT -5
OH, how I wish and long for those days of that wonderful time period that the BEST musicians of Journey, Perry, Smith, Schon, Cain, and Ross were all together playing their SPECTACULAR music again. I know that is selfish on MY part to want them to perform together again, they have the right to feel the way they do, and make their own choices not to ever perform together again, that is their right, BUT from a fan point a view, I sure do MISS this GREAT band Journey.  |
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Post by sexxymofo on Nov 9, 2007 20:28:19 GMT -5
Ditto on all of the above!! Bring back the best of the best Steve Perry, Steve Smith and lets get this party started!  |
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Post by flossy on Nov 15, 2007 21:58:16 GMT -5
I guess Steve is so disgusted with them at this point that the answer is no, but I wish he could put all that behind him.
I still want to know why JSS was let go, isn't anyone else truly curious if he did something?
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Post by happycamper on Nov 16, 2007 11:00:07 GMT -5
I don't suppose that it was anything as simple as posting on the message boards? Maybe even for rubbing elbows with some of the message board iinmates? I'll never believe that it was because they were afraid of his overwhelming the fans, ala Steve Perry, thereby drawing much needed adulation away from other band members.
It's anybody's guess. I do believe that he knows though.
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Post by properry on Nov 16, 2007 12:11:36 GMT -5
Yea, I think JSS knows more than he is telling the fans about his dismissal from Journey. He doesn't seem all that upset that he was let go to me. Besides he seems to have moved on and is doing just fine musically on his own.
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Post by flossy on Nov 17, 2007 0:53:20 GMT -5
yeah he let them tear up Jeremey for a good long while, never jumping in and then and only when he was sure he didn't get the gig did he say he was a good guy and all that jazz....
JSS knows why he got let go and I bet it was 'cause someone was in rehab which he leaked and maybe he broke the confidentiality
agreement?
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Post by properry on Nov 17, 2007 4:21:49 GMT -5
yeah he let them tear up Jeremey for a good long while, never jumping in and then and only when he was sure he didn't get the gig did he say he was a good guy and all that jazz.... JSS knows why he got let go and I bet it was 'cause someone was in rehab which he leaked and maybe he broke the confidentiality agreement? Where are you getting this information? |
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Post by flossy on Nov 17, 2007 16:02:47 GMT -5
yeah he let them tear up Jeremey for a good long while, never jumping in and then and only when he was sure he didn't get the gig did he say he was a good guy and all that jazz.... JSS knows why he got let go and I bet it was 'cause someone was in rehab which he leaked and maybe he broke the confidentiality agreement? Where are you getting this information? it was speculation months ago Properry, we have to guess cause no one knows what really happened.  |
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Post by happycamper on Nov 17, 2007 16:29:48 GMT -5
Thing is, JSS seemed more upset about the way he was informed than WHY. If he knows why, then he should have just stated that he understood and not let the guys take the beating they did from the fans. I think that he did say that he has no bones to pick with the guys, or words to that effect, but some of his fans have to have it their way. I think that it was kinda like Karma that the way he got into the band was the way he went out.
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Post by flossy on Nov 20, 2007 20:22:26 GMT -5
Thing is, JSS seemed more upset about the way he was informed than WHY. If he knows why, then he should have just stated that he understood and not let the guys take the beating they did from the fans. I think that he did say that he has no bones to pick with the guys, or words to that effect, but some of his fans have to have it their way. I think that it was kinda like Karma that the way he got into the band was the way he went out. Yep! Exactly my friend, exactly!!! |
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Post by happycamper on Nov 21, 2007 20:06:14 GMT -5
High five Flossy, ;D ;D
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Post by arden on Nov 23, 2007 23:22:54 GMT -5
I think the way JSS was dismissed was extremely unprofessional, IF, indeed, that is the way it really happened. I'm having a lot of trouble believing that he had no idea why he was dismissed. I'm inclined to think that the reasons had more to do with violations of his non-disclosure agreement and/or security breaches. I've signed non-disclosures. They are usually taken very seriously, particularly by old school management teams like Azoff. I've never signed..nor, ever seen...an NDA that included an exception that would allow me to run my mouth to my friend who would then post what I said all over the internet. I would still be culpable for the information getting out. It has been admitted on a certain "blog" by the "blogger" that he used a fake name to procure backstage passes...etc., with the implication that JSS was the one doing the favors. JSS has claimed publicly that he only knows this person casually, however, comments by JSS since then and several pics circulating the internet call JSS's claim into question. JSS has, apparently, done nothing to keep this person from acting as his spokesperson when he clearly could have done so with one phone call to his attorney. JSS also had a penchant for jumping in to set certain fans straight that did not like his style or his voice being particularly "colorful" about it both in the case of Perry fans and Augeri fans. Add to that JSS's decision to align himself with the filth that goes on at the Crock and the very people who strutted around bragging that they had brought down Augeri...JSS's predecessor. Just stop and think about how that looks. Regardless of whether or not there was any knowledge or involvement in Tapegate, JSS was clearly the one who benefited from what his "new friends" had done, and now he is going to reward them with backstage passes and appearances at their parties?? Add to that the fact that Tapegate played out on the website of JSS's close friend. The whole thing just looks very, very bad, IMO. I think it is quite likely that I'm not the only one who thought it looked bad. IMO, there was probably some "lawyering up" going on in the Augeri camp, and Journey decided to distance themselves as best they could. I have no love at all for Neal or Jon for the things they have done and said about Perry, not to mention what they have done to the legacy that Perry built, but far too much effort has been put into trying to make people believe that the change was made because of jealousy. I don't buy it. Thing is, JSS seemed more upset about the way he was informed than WHY. If he knows why, then he should have just stated that he understood and not let the guys take the beating they did from the fans. I think that he did say that he has no bones to pick with the guys, or words to that effect, but some of his fans have to have it their way. I think that it was kinda like Karma that the way he got into the band was the way he went out. |
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Post by arden on Nov 23, 2007 23:34:01 GMT -5
I wish they could do that, too, Kevin.  Been watching some old videos of Journey. Dear Mr. Steve Perry and Mr. Neal Schon Will you two please bury the hatchet and make the music that you two and your million plus fans MISS SO desperately? Please... time is running out. Time waits for NO ONE. Please! A loyal fan, Kevin/icubud |
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Post by properry on Nov 25, 2007 13:26:14 GMT -5
Great post Arden! I think the way JSS was dismissed was extremely unprofessional, IF, indeed, that is the way it really happened. I'm having a lot of trouble believing that he had no idea why he was dismissed. I'm inclined to think that the reasons had more to do with violations of his non-disclosure agreement and/or security breaches. I've signed non-disclosures. They are usually taken very seriously, particularly by old school management teams like Azoff. I've never signed..nor, ever seen...an NDA that included an exception that would allow me to run my mouth to my friend who would then post what I said all over the internet. I would still be culpable for the information getting out. It has been admitted on a certain "blog" by the "blogger" that he used a fake name to procure backstage passes...etc., with the implication that JSS was the one doing the favors. JSS has claimed publicly that he only knows this person casually, however, comments by JSS since then and several pics circulating the internet call JSS's claim into question. JSS has, apparently, done nothing to keep this person from acting as his spokesperson when he clearly could have done so with one phone call to his attorney. JSS also had a penchant for jumping in to set certain fans straight that did not like his style or his voice being particularly "colorful" about it both in the case of Perry fans and Augeri fans. Add to that JSS's decision to align himself with the filth that goes on at the Crock and the very people who strutted around bragging that they had brought down Augeri...JSS's predecessor. Just stop and think about how that looks. Regardless of whether or not there was any knowledge or involvement in Tapegate, JSS was clearly the one who benefited from what his "new friends" had done, and now he is going to reward them with backstage passes and appearances at their parties?? Add to that the fact that Tapegate played out on the website of JSS's close friend. The whole thing just looks very, very bad, IMO. I think it is quite likely that I'm not the only one who thought it looked bad. IMO, there was probably some "lawyering up" going on in the Augeri camp, and Journey decided to distance themselves as best they could. I have no love at all for Neal or Jon for the things they have done and said about Perry, not to mention what they have done to the legacy that Perry built, but far too much effort has been put into trying to make people believe that the change was made because of jealousy. I don't buy it. Thing is, JSS seemed more upset about the way he was informed than WHY. If he knows why, then he should have just stated that he understood and not let the guys take the beating they did from the fans. I think that he did say that he has no bones to pick with the guys, or words to that effect, but some of his fans have to have it their way. I think that it was kinda like Karma that the way he got into the band was the way he went out. |
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Post by sexxymofo on Nov 27, 2007 9:04:26 GMT -5
Yep it did look really bad but some people are out just to get theirs and who cares about anything or anyone else. Like Happpycamper said it was 'karma' what goes around comes around I've certainly had my share of 'Karma' but then you learn and grow the f-up and portray yourself in a better light. It was a masterplan from the get go can anyone guess who was the brain(less) behind operation? I'd like to know. Do you guys suppose JSS was wanting to sing ' SWALLOW MY LOAD" during his Journey years, oops my bad he didn't even make 1 year  the song probably didn't set too well with the audience  |
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Post by properry on Nov 27, 2007 11:35:06 GMT -5
Yep it did look really bad but some people are out just to get theirs and who cares about anything or anyone else. Like Happpycamper said it was 'karma' what goes around comes around I've certainly had my share of 'Karma' but then you learn and grow the f-up and portray yourself in a better light. It was a masterplan from the get go can anyone guess who was the brain(less) behind operation? I'd like to know. Do you guys suppose JSS was wanting to sing ' SWALLOW MY LOAD" during his Journey years, oops my bad he didn't even make 1 year the song probably didn't set too well with the audience Well I don't know if JSS wanted to sing "Swallow My Load", but I agree, I don't think that song is the type of song that Journey fans would of wanted to come hear at a Journey concert. That's just not Journey's style of music, but JSS singing it solo with his own band, I think those fans would most likely accept that style of music from him. |
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the song probably didn't set too well with the audience 