Still...

[icubud]

Nothing....

I've "wrote" this post in my head easily a dozen times. One time I actually posted about half of the thoughts but then deleted within a minute afraid to cause trouble on this board or more likely - to be taken wrong about what I was "saying".

Today on the way home I put in TBF and the melancholy set in. In with the melancholy was the decision to actually make this post and not delete it once it was completed.

Its been 15 years since SP has released anything for his fans. I am not good with math and all the technical release dates and timing but I think including 4LOSM he has released 2 complete projects (at least 8 new tracks of music) in 20 years. If my math is off I have to be pretty close. Call it guesstimate if you wish. The thought though is for whatever reason SP doesn't really want to contribute anymore to the relationship he started with his fans way back there with Infinity. Sightings of him at a store or ballgame obviously doesn't count as a contribution to the dynamic. For some reason - apparently he feels comfortable and good with his legacy being rested on the merits of Journey and two solo-albums. Yes - it is true that any singer or musician would die for such a legacy. But I wonder when you have the talent and the connection available why you wouldn't want more. Understand what I am trying to say?

I was reading recent reviews of the new unJourney CD. I noticed some reviews (on the unJourney board mind you) that were negative. The expression was - where is the Journey that I fell in love with? Where is the music that made real life connections to me? Obviously the answer is easy - SP is no longer the writer of the songs and no matter what JC would want people to believe - SP was THE writer of the WORDS of the band. That connection - was SP. Of course that connection translates into his solo music.

But for some reason SP wants to have that connection broken and unrepaired. For all intensive purposes - he has quit. I do not understand why. I guess - me being JUST a fan and patron of his production/goods I don't deserve an answer. That is what some people would say but I got to disagree. The connection was more than a product - the connection was a relationship a unique dynamic in which people who never actually met shared the vibe, the power, the spirit, the fear, the love, the heartbreak and/or excitement etc. through the music that by and large was written by SP. Was it all just $$ for him? I would have to argue that based on the inactivity of the last 20 years, it was. And you know what - that really sucks. I am a 46 year old man who had tears in his eyes to listening to TBF this afternoon and for crying out loud I exasperated & frustrated about all things SP. I have been for quite a few years.

I rarely listen to Journey or SP anymore because the music is now a depressant. It’s the equivalent of looking at old photos of friends long gone or reading old letters and cards of people who have passed on. Its something that is relegated to a box and rarely will I bring it out because the emotions are still so powerful, hurtful and disappointing.

I don’t know what the future holds but unfortunately I am 99% sure it will be without new music, tours and real interaction with SP. Sad actually, in relative terms he is still young and The Eagles, The Boss, Rolling Stones, Robert Plant, etc. show that the fan base is still there and desperately needs the experience again.

Is he mad? Doesn't really care?

Please don’t post replies of burning hate, sarcasm, or the like. This board is never been that type of place.

I figure if I --- we --- can’t be honest about all things SP - HERE - then why have the board anymore…

[properry]

Hi icubud

Nothing bad about your post, I feel you spoke from your own heart, so you won't get any mean unkind remarks back from me.

I know Perry said he has some new music that he was possibly going to make available to the fans , but for whatever reasons he may have changed his mind about doing it, or possibly just likes his life the way it is now.

I continue to listen to his music all the time and will always hope to hear for more music from him. When I listen to my classic Journey it just makes me go back in time and remember those excellent concerts and the great times I had seeing them all perform on stage. It makes me miss & wish that Perry was still with Journey, but I realize that is just MY wishes, hopes, dreams and that is not likely going to ever happen, so I just keep enjoying the classic Journey.

Majority of time I listen MORE to Perry's solo music than I do anything else, I love FTLOSM & Street Talk. I so wish he would make new music, but my wild guess is that he possibly likes his life the way it is now, so if that is the case, I accept that and will keep on listening to what he has given to us fans already. As I've sad so many times before, I won't stop being his fan just because he isn't making new music,I'll still keep supporting him no matter what he does and keep missing him too.

And I get A LOT of joy when we fans got to see him at the Giants game and other sightings, or when he did the questions for the fans, I think that is his way of letting us interact with him, no he is not making music for us, but for ME, I greatly appreciate these other things too, because it is great to see him, and get to interact with him through questions or Birthday messages. So I believe he does care for his fans a great deal and this is another way of him showing that to his fans. I will keep on loving, missing him and listening to the music that he has given me.

So I hope all is well with you icubud and you are having a good summer!

[properry]

I was checking out the MR. Steve Perry board and more speculation is being made about Steve's ability to sing by some fans.

The owner of site says, and these are "NOT his exact words" that Perry has some kind of vocal problem, and that is why we are not hearing from Perry musically. He doesn't say where he got this information.

There has always been lots of rumors about Perry having vocal problems over the years, and NO real proof to back up the information being spread.

My opinion is that until I hear it straight from Steve Perry HIMSELF or through Lora or Cyndi, then that is when I will believe the information, otherwise it is just speculation.

I just hope that what ever Steve Perry is doing in his life that HE is happy and having a good summer!!

[icubud]

They were saying the same stuff back before TBF and FTLOSM and of course it was false.

[arden]

No flames here. The nice thing about the Hotel is that we can talk about what we want. It has never been one of the "hair and butt" sites.

I think that most Perry fans, especially "Perry onlies", are disappointed that there has not been new music from Steve. Personally, I've never felt like I was owed an explanation. None of us are privy to what has gone on in the man's life all these years.

Years ago there were the "five year" rumors. Many thought that there were no compete restrictions on Steve. Giving that credibility was the fact that Steve started stirring around and coming out more in public and giving interviews exactly five years after Journey started without him.

I think that it is possible that Steve doesn't know himself what he has left or whether or not he can deal with the rigors of any kind of touring or sustained use of his voice. Does he still have the voice of Infinity era Journey? Of course not...he's 62 years old. None of his contemporaries have the same voice they had either. None of us do either.

It is clear by the pictures that we've seen that Steve takes much better care of himself at some times than he does at others. He may have reached a point in his life where he just wants to enjoy life, be happy and comfortable without having to work at fullfilling anyone's expectations or working on himself or his voice or his writing. His legacy gives him a firm base on which to rest. Many things have changed with technology that require people to constantly be learning or relearning how to do your job, especially in the music and entertainment industries. The older you get, the less effort you want to put into all that. I can understand that first hand.

Through the years there have been rumors regarding the people and groups that Steve mentions in his liner notes. I believe Steve has mentioned in early interviews that he has had his battles with substance abuse. That is usually a life long battle. I personally believe that Steve still has to battle certain demons and that he may be respecting both his own right to anonymity as well as the right to anonymity of others who help support him.

For YEARS there have been the same people on other sites quoting "sources" with great authority. These "sources" are always nameless and faceless and with zero credibility.

The people who are closest to Steve and who are in more of a postition to have heard him sing and know personally what is going on with him aren't talking, and that is WHY they are still the people who are closest to him.

I don't think that Steve particularly wants things to stay broken with his bandmates, but that that is just the way things are. Neal and Jon still try to discount Steve's contribution to Journey. Jon has even rewritten history in interviews on occasion. They want desperately to recapture what they had in the music with Perry, but they keep falling short. Maybe they just need to realize why.

May 31, 2011 15:41:10 GMT -5 icubud said:

Nothing....

I've "wrote" this post in my head easily a dozen times. One time I actually posted about half of the thoughts but then deleted within a minute afraid to cause trouble on this board or more likely - to be taken wrong about what I was "saying".

Today on the way home I put in TBF and the melancholy set in. In with the melancholy was the decision to actually make this post and not delete it once it was completed.

Its been 15 years since SP has released anything for his fans. I am not good with math and all the technical release dates and timing but I think including 4LOSM he has released 2 complete projects (at least 8 new tracks of music) in 20 years. If my math is off I have to be pretty close. Call it guesstimate if you wish. The thought though is for whatever reason SP doesn't really want to contribute anymore to the relationship he started with his fans way back there with Infinity. Sightings of him at a store or ballgame obviously doesn't count as a contribution to the dynamic. For some reason - apparently he feels comfortable and good with his legacy being rested on the merits of Journey and two solo-albums. Yes - it is true that any singer or musician would die for such a legacy. But I wonder when you have the talent and the connection available why you wouldn't want more. Understand what I am trying to say?

I was reading recent reviews of the new unJourney CD. I noticed some reviews (on the unJourney board mind you) that were negative. The expression was - where is the Journey that I fell in love with? Where is the music that made real life connections to me? Obviously the answer is easy - SP is no longer the writer of the songs and no matter what JC would want people to believe - SP was THE writer of the WORDS of the band. That connection - was SP. Of course that connection translates into his solo music.

But for some reason SP wants to have that connection broken and unrepaired. For all intensive purposes - he has quit. I do not understand why. I guess - me being JUST a fan and patron of his production/goods I don't deserve an answer. That is what some people would say but I got to disagree. The connection was more than a product - the connection was a relationship a unique dynamic in which people who never actually met shared the vibe, the power, the spirit, the fear, the love, the heartbreak and/or excitement etc. through the music that by and large was written by SP. Was it all just $$ for him? I would have to argue that based on the inactivity of the last 20 years, it was. And you know what - that really sucks. I am a 46 year old man who had tears in his eyes to listening to TBF this afternoon and for crying out loud I exasperated & frustrated about all things SP. I have been for quite a few years.

I rarely listen to Journey or SP anymore because the music is now a depressant. It’s the equivalent of looking at old photos of friends long gone or reading old letters and cards of people who have passed on. Its something that is relegated to a box and rarely will I bring it out because the emotions are still so powerful, hurtful and disappointing.

I don’t know what the future holds but unfortunately I am 99% sure it will be without new music, tours and real interaction with SP. Sad actually, in relative terms he is still young and The Eagles, The Boss, Rolling Stones, Robert Plant, etc. show that the fan base is still there and desperately needs the experience again.

Is he mad? Doesn't really care?

Please don’t post replies of burning hate, sarcasm, or the like. This board is never been that type of place.

I figure if I --- we --- can’t be honest about all things SP - HERE - then why have the board anymore…

[properry]

I agree with you Arden that Perry certainly does not owe ME ( as a fan) an explanation about anything regarding singing or making new music. That is HIS decision and HIS right to change his mind. Yes, of course we fans want him to because we love him & miss him, but it is still his life and his choice to decide whether he chooses to do that or not.

I've read some post over at the MR. Steve Perry Board from a few mean spirited fans ,NOT all of them, that Perry is misleading his fans and that is certainly NOT my opinion at all. As I've always said, I remain a fan of HIM regardless if he makes new music or not, and that is the way I will ALWAYS feel too.

And as far as the rumor about him having vocal problems that rumor has been going on for so many years, and as icubud said it FALSE information.

I just support Perry to do what HE wants to do, so Perry gets no mean spirited posts from ME. I just wish HIM the best and MUCH happiness!!

[icubud]

I get why the two of you express SP owes you no explanation. I agree with that - too a point. My question is don't you want to know why there is no new music? Again, sure, he owes no one - NADA. And like I just expressed - I get it.

Ya know maybe what I am trying to articulate is that on the whole the music that I went to in the past tends to make me melancholy now.

I understand the whole "demons" thing - unfortunately more than I should and if that is what the inactivity is all about then my heart goes out to the guy. I hope the support network is tight and right.

[shrug] Its just a dang shame ya know?

[properry]

Just speaking for me, I guess I feel I don't really need to know WHY I see that, as his personal business, as to whether he wants to share his reasons with his fans. I just keep on listening to his music!

My own opinion on this is that even if he did share his reasons with the fans there would always be fans (NOT on this board) but on other web sites that will twist "any reason" he gave to the fans ,and make judgements against him, and say he wasn't telling them the truth, so it would just give those fans more ammunition to tear him down more publicly on the boards.

An example of that would be back when he shared his very personal medical problems on radio interviews & such, some fans on different websites accused him of faking it, and made all kinds of terrible comments about him. Perry never responded back negatively to the fans treating him that particular way, but that kind of talk continued for a long time on the boards.

So again this is just MY OWN PERSPECTIVE, NOT saying Perry feels this way, but IF *I* was in his shoes or ANY celebrity experiencing that situation, I would most likely not want to share my personal reasons with the fans.

And I want to make clear that I am not saying all the fans treat him badly , Perry has TONS of fans all over the world that love him & miss him, including me that continue to support him.

Jun 16, 2011 15:17:49 GMT -5 icubud said:

I get why the two of you express SP owes you no explanation. I agree with that - too a point. My question is don't you want to know why there is no new music? Again, sure, he owes no one - NADA. And like I just expressed - I get it.

Ya know maybe what I am trying to articulate is that on the whole the music that I went to in the past tends to make me melancholy now.

I understand the whole "demons" thing - unfortunately more than I should and if that is what the inactivity is all about then my heart goes out to the guy. I hope the support network is tight and right.

[shrug] Its just a dang shame ya know?

[icubud]

I can see that. Don't give them anything to twist. What a sad state of things.

[pat]

You all said it so right on. I think that over the years Steve has realized in more ways than one that he psychically can no longer keep up the grueling pace of being a singer and feels that if he can't give the fans 100% then don't give anything at all. I am sure that Steve himself wants to sing again but just is not sure how he can achieve the all he wants to give.

Steve doesn't have to tour at all if new music came out. He could do a show live from Vegas to be shown on HBO or Showtime or he could decide to only do say 8 shows in the major cities and make it available on DVD. There is many ways Steve could do this but for some reason it will never be. As Steve said in a recent Q&A "that Uncle Stevie is getting older." We all grow older and we all can't do what we once use to do and maybe that is the major issue with Steve.

I am sure Steve thinks back on the times with the band and wishes he could capture those moments one more time because they brought him alot of happiness and yes sadness too but those times are the times he was riding high and doing what he loved to do....SING!

It's sad knowing that we may never hear him sing again but I think Steve is at a point in his life where he is taking time to appreciate all that he done and has given. I am sure his demons from the past are still there and are a daily struggle for him and perhaps that is why he stays away from the spotlight alot because does not want those demons to control his life as they once did.

I'd love to hear something new and buy a new cd from Steve but he has given so much over the years musically that I'm happy with all that he has given. It would be nice to see Steve and the band make amends and give it one more try but I don't see that in the near future.

So alas we wish for something new...anything new but still notta....nothing. I'm sure if Steve really has something to say and wants to be heard we the fans will hear it. It's just a matter of time and time my dear Steve is running out!

[icubud]

"So alas we wish for something new...anything new but still notta....nothing. I'm sure if Steve really has something to say and wants to be heard we the fans will hear it. It's just a matter of time and time my dear Steve is running out!"
(emphasis added...)

Exactly!

[happycamper]

Can't the man just enjoy what he has accomplished already without being told that time is running out? Where is it written that he has to do more in the time that we or he has left? Talk about pressure. What more can the man say in song that he has not already said? I think that he said it all in FTLOSM but hardly anyone listened. Let the man rest and enjoy his accomplishments without being pressured by being told that time is running out. He's already earned all the time in the world and should be told he can take all the time in the world if he so chooses.

[properry]

There is NO Running out of time for ME , I'll be here to support his music ANY TIME AT ALL, no punt intended , just the truth! And if he chooses not to, I'll still keep being his fan no matter what!!!

[properry]

And while checking out another website that has a Steve Perry board, there are people posting negative crap about Perry, Not saying everyone on the board.

Think about it though, why would ANY celebrity give his/her time of day to an interview on that board when they are constantly being bad mouthed publicly by some posters there?

Anything he stated in an interview would just get turned back on him negatively by those people who "get off" on that kind of cheap entertainment for themselves.

And I do not know anything about the music business, this is just a question, but "Do lawyers generally take phone calls from people wanting to do interviews with their famous clients???"

I thought lawyers dealt with more business stuff, like contracts to make sure their clients were getting treated fairly, in this case like a record deal or other things related to the music business??

Why would a lawyer have time to take phone calls from people wanting to get interviews for one of his famous clients?? I thought musicians had *managers* that handled that sort of thing??

To me, that just makes no sense that a high powered attorney would handle things like that , but again, I could be wrong on that issue. It is just a question?

[arden]

Lee Phillips is an Entertainment attorney. I believe most things concerning Steve Perry go through him.

No he wouldn't take the phone calls himself. An admin assisstant would probably handle that and pass the messages along or not.

That interview with Steve will not be happening.

Jul 5, 2011 11:01:36 GMT -5 properry said:

And while checking out another website that has a Steve Perry board, there are people posting negative crap about Perry, Not saying everyone on the board.

Think about it though, why would ANY celebrity give his/her time of day to an interview on that board when they are constantly being bad mouthed publicly by some posters there?

Anything he stated in an interview would just get turned back on him negatively by those people who "get off" on that kind of cheap entertainment for themselves.

And I do not know anything about the music business, this is just a question, but "Do lawyers generally take phone calls from people wanting to do interviews with their famous clients???"

I thought lawyers dealt with more business stuff, like contracts to make sure their clients were getting treated fairly, in this case like a record deal or other things related to the music business??

Why would a lawyer have time to take phone calls from people wanting to get interviews for one of his famous clients?? I thought musicians had *managers* that handled that sort of thing??

To me, that just makes no sense that a high powered attorney would handle things like that , but again, I could be wrong on that issue. It is just a question?

[properry]

Yea, let Perry have his peace & enjoy his summer, if he wants to do any interviews, I'm sure he knows what to do to make that happen.

Jul 5, 2011 11:24:37 GMT -5 arden said:

Lee Phillips is an Entertainment attorney. I believe most things concerning Steve Perry go through him.

No he wouldn't take the phone calls himself. An admin assisstant would probably handle that and pass the messages along or not.

That interview with Steve will not be happening.

Jul 5, 2011 11:01:36 GMT -5 properry said:

And while checking out another website that has a Steve Perry board, there are people posting negative crap about Perry, Not saying everyone on the board.

Think about it though, why would ANY celebrity give his/her time of day to an interview on that board when they are constantly being bad mouthed publicly by some posters there?

Anything he stated in an interview would just get turned back on him negatively by those people who "get off" on that kind of cheap entertainment for themselves.

And I do not know anything about the music business, this is just a question, but "Do lawyers generally take phone calls from people wanting to do interviews with their famous clients???"

I thought lawyers dealt with more business stuff, like contracts to make sure their clients were getting treated fairly, in this case like a record deal or other things related to the music business??

Why would a lawyer have time to take phone calls from people wanting to get interviews for one of his famous clients?? I thought musicians had *managers* that handled that sort of thing??

To me, that just makes no sense that a high powered attorney would handle things like that , but again, I could be wrong on that issue. It is just a question?