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Post by arden on Mar 31, 2006 19:43:49 GMT -5
WROQ Rock 101.1 in South Carolina interviewed Neal Schon by phone today. This is what he said about the upcoming tour. I guess since this tour can't be boosted by hinting that Perry may make an appearance, they are destined to be an opening act...sad. www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/030071.html"Its a co headlining show...we went around and around about taking turns opening...they (Def Lep) didn't really want to do it so I thought it would be better to just take equal time than to chuck the whole tour" |
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Post by properry on Apr 1, 2006 14:53:09 GMT -5
That is very sad that Journey has become an opening act, but you know they (band members) brought it on themselves, when they "let go" of Perry. It wouldn't have been that way with Perry in the band. This just shows more proof that Journey NEEDS Perry!!!  Oh, did you catch the line where Neal says, "a certain individual didn't want to go to Europe" (something like that), they didn't say his name, but you can tell by that remark that Neal still seems to hold resentment towards Perry.  Lori |
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Post by arden on Apr 1, 2006 15:35:07 GMT -5
Well, that "certain individual" has been out of the band since 1998. That's 8 years. So, what is their excuse for not going in the last 8 years? Lack of interest would be my guess. That is very sad that Journey has become an opening act, but you know they (band members) brought it on themselves, when they "let go" of Perry. It wouldn't have been that way with Perry in the band. This just shows more proof that Journey NEEDS Perry!!! Oh, did you catch the line where Neal says, "a certain individual didn't want to go to Europe" (something like that), they didn't say his name, but you can tell by that remark that Neal still seems to hold resentment towards Perry. Lori |
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Post by leducred98 on Apr 1, 2006 16:00:11 GMT -5
definately lack of interest. you cannot tell me that steve didnt want to do europe when they use to do it way back in the early days, and they went to Japan(different country i know). but just neal doing more smoke and mirrors. oh def leppard dindt want to share time on being open acts so journey said ok. no they need the money and try to keep up the front that they are what htey use to be.
ok neal sure sure. the jig is up we know!
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Post by properry on Apr 1, 2006 18:35:36 GMT -5
I agree with both of you, definitely "lack of interest" on THEIR part.
We fans have ALWAYS known that WITHOUT Perry, they will never be what they used to be WITH Perry, that is a VERY, VERY talented band with GREAT SUCCESS!!!
Lori
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Post by sexxymofo on Apr 2, 2006 2:41:10 GMT -5
It's crystal clear to me and many fans that Journey since Perry was let go,
has not and will not be the headline act. They are and always will be a
nostalgic act due to them waring out the name with the likes of karaoke
singers. What a dam* shame it is I don't think that Perry himself would be
able to save this once great band b/c of all of these karaoke tours that
have took place these past 7 years.
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Post by barbara on Apr 2, 2006 8:15:32 GMT -5
It's crystal clear to me and many fans that Journey since Perry was let go, has not and will not be the headline act. They are and always will be a nostalgic act due to them waring out the name with the likes of karaoke singers. What a dam* shame it is I don't think that Perry himself would be able to save this once great band b/c of all of these karaoke tours that have took place these past 7 years. You are all so right on here.And i don't think Steve could or would try to save the band now.It's gone like so manny other things.Thay need him more than he needs them.Funny how things work out. |
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Post by arden on Apr 2, 2006 18:07:27 GMT -5
It would be nice if Neal could do an interview without either trying to use Perry or take some pot shot at him.
A lot more headway could be made toward mending burned bridges if Neal would just shut the hell up and play the guitar!
Any bridges that have taken 8 years to build must've been built by FEMA.
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Post by properry on Apr 3, 2006 13:58:44 GMT -5
I'm in total agreement with you, Arden!
Lori
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Post by ultraswt on Apr 4, 2006 2:50:24 GMT -5
I remember 10 years ago when Trial By Fire came out and I was so excited about the tour that was going to happen. And when I found out they had found a wanna be Steve Perry with a guy who has the same first name and a close sounding last name( Augeri) Sick!!! How twisted can that be!! The guy was working in a Gap store to make it to Journey, one of Rock's all times best groups , becoming the singer for the opening act band Journey. That is soooooooo sad and says lot to the bandmates, that Steve Perry is and will always be da man of the band...... |
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Post by leducred98 on Apr 4, 2006 6:29:54 GMT -5
Personally I do not care where the guy works, Steve A. If he can sing fine. but he got a raw deal because of Neal and Jon. Steve P use to work on his step dad's turkey farm doesnt mean he was not talented. I believe STeve A is good just not Steve P's calibur.
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Post by sparkle2 on Apr 4, 2006 10:50:08 GMT -5
if Neal would just shut the hell up and play the guitar!... LOL, I can't tell you how many times I've had that exact thought. I think Neal is his own worst enemy. It's kind of a shame, he's so talented but every time he opens his mouth he's whining about Steve Perry being the cause of all his problems. But hey, he had to prove that Journey was HIS band and they didn't need Steve Perry! A European tour, guess he showed us! I'm sure they'll be opening at some of the nicer European rodeos and biker rallies... ;D Ok, that was mean, but hey, after that snotty remark he made on his official board a while back imho he's fair game... sparkle |
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Post by leducred98 on Apr 4, 2006 12:02:04 GMT -5
Yes Neal seems to be his own worst enemy, i totally agree.
But Steve isnt innocent 100% either. He has even said in interviews that he is no day at the beach to deal with. As well as there has been a few times they all acted like dogs snarling over the water dish.
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Post by arden on Apr 4, 2006 14:08:10 GMT -5
While I am sure that Steve was not 100% innocent, I do believe that he has always taken the high road when he speaks publicly about anyone in the band or about his years in it.
I was glad to finally see him address the issue of being used by Neal and Jon for their own gain. If people will remember back to all the publicity that Journey and Neal got before and after the HOF, Neal in particular was as busy hawking his new solo CD as well as the ill fated Soul Sirkus as much as he was offering the "pawn of hope" that Perry might show up at the any of the Journey shows.
This is a quote from the interview that Sparkle2 typed up for us:
Steve Perry: "One of the things that makes it difficult to have contact with the members is that as a result of doing the Star Walk Of Fame and showing up at the last minute, some of the members have used that on some of their promotional radio interview when they’re asked: “Do you think Steve will show up?” They’ve said: “He showed up unannounced at the Walk Of Fame, you can never tell.” Now, I see that as a pawn of hope, and I don’t want to mislead anybody that that’s the case. So if there’s anything that keeps me from contacting the members is that it’s always turned into something else than it is and I don’t want to participate in that sort of thing."
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Post by ultraswt on Apr 5, 2006 3:55:47 GMT -5
I have to say that Steve P. has been honest about his place in the band and how he feels. No one is perfect and he never comes close or says that he is. I love his honesty. Also all of these post have people's opinion's on them, that is all. That is what is so great about these threads, we can express our feelings. ;D
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Post by mci1968 on Apr 5, 2006 3:58:32 GMT -5
Girl, I know what you mean and I agree with you. Personal opinions that's all
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Post by sparkle2 on Apr 7, 2006 9:02:37 GMT -5
From MSNBC Entertainment News: "It will be a classic rock summer for Def Leppard, which has tapped Journey as the opener for a 34-date coast-to-coast run that begins June 23 in Camden, N.J. " Doesn't sound like a co-headlining show to me... sparkle |
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Post by leducred98 on Apr 7, 2006 9:06:07 GMT -5
neal quoted himself to say that they tried to negotiate one night you open next night we open and Def said nope. So Neal said ok we will open.
sure neal sure
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Post by arden on Apr 7, 2006 10:57:54 GMT -5
Yep, it definitly sounds like Neal was given an ultimatum to take the opening spot or hit the road. Joe Elliot(sp?) is running this tour. "Its a co headlining show...we went around and around about taking turns opening...they (Def Lep) didn't really want to do it so I thought it would be better to just take equal time than to chuck the whole tour"neal quoted himself to say that they tried to negotiate one night you open next night we open and Def said nope. So Neal said ok we will open. sure neal sure s |
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Post by perrynow on Apr 7, 2006 19:15:04 GMT -5
There ya go....Def Leppard absolutely didn't want to take turns opening the shows, so in order to ride on THEIR coattails, UNJ becomes an opening act. Bravo, Neal...taking it to the basement yet again. If he isn't riding Perry's coat tails, he's riding Def Leppards's. They can't stand on their own, with a majority of their own new material and proudly sink or swim. It is about money...that's all. You can't tell me that Neal and Jon aren't sick to death of playing the dirty dozen with a singer on his last vocal chord who has no writing chemistry with any of them. Neal, Jon and Ross have nothing else that will even remotely generate the income that the Journey "name" will bring, so they will use it till they drop over dead. I can remember when the name Journey meant world class talent and no compromise, under any circumstances. I guess that was just the Steve Perry version of Journey, not this one.
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Post by sexxymofo on Apr 8, 2006 1:47:39 GMT -5
I can't help but laugh my a$$ off and cry @ the sametime too  . This ONCE great band is having to open for DL what the hell is wrong with this picture  ? I am sadden at the FACT that IF Steve Perry was to return no one would even bother because the new fans have been fooled with the likes of amateurs and money hungry musicians to really notice true talent even if it slapped them in the face. Steve Perry come out and sing/tour solo for WE your fans miss your persona/charisma & beautiful voice dearly  . I'm sorry that noone listened to you about the cracking of the stone, guess egos do make and break one. |
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Post by ultraswt on Apr 8, 2006 1:48:02 GMT -5
I don't like to bad mouth people but with Journey, the three remaining players in the band, have kicked Journey's name and fame to the curb. I always believe in Karma and as we can tell, it has taken it's toll. This is really sad to see the Arena Rock band , that had really started the Arena Rock turn into a circus act. I pray for you guys( Neal, Ross, and Jon). |
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Post by sexxymofo on Apr 8, 2006 1:52:55 GMT -5
I don't like to bad mouth people but with Journey, the three remaining players in the band, have kicked Journey's name and fame to the curb. Yup, I say that happened when they called and left Steve Perry the message on the answering machine! d**n from Arena Rock band back to Garage rock band. |
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Post by ultraswt on Apr 8, 2006 1:56:07 GMT -5
LMAO!!!!! I like that ;D
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Post by sexxymofo on Apr 8, 2006 2:19:54 GMT -5
 Well I am not a comedian ;D, but it is refreshing to see someone else laugh at my post/comments & jokes beside myself  |
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Post by properry on Apr 8, 2006 12:29:22 GMT -5
I can't help but laugh my a$$ off and cry @ the sametime too . This ONCE great band is having to open for DL what the hell is wrong with this picture ? I am sadden at the FACT that IF Steve Perry was to return no one would even bother because the new fans have been fooled with the likes of amateurs and money hungry musicians to notice true talent even if it slapped them in the face. Steve Perry come out and sing/tour solo for WE your fans miss your persona/charisma & beautiful voice dearly . I'm sorry that noone listened to you about the cracking of the stone, guess egos do make and break one. Yea, I sure wish Neal & Jon would have listened to Steve,(about the cracking of the stone) that was a huge mistake on Neal & Jon's part. This VERY poor decision to "let go" of Perry has turned this ONCE INCREDIBLE, AMAZING talented band into an opening act, so very, very sad!!! I sure MISS Steve Perry!!! Lori |
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Post by happycamper on Apr 8, 2006 12:55:43 GMT -5
It's is going to be interesting. The ticket price is from $75 to $80, starting. They're going to have to need real fans of both bands to have just 90 min. of each bands performance at that price. That is to say, if you don't care for one of them, it's not going to be worth the price.
Did I say that right, lol.
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Post by sexxymofo on Apr 8, 2006 16:11:04 GMT -5
I will ONLY dish out this kind of cash or even more for Journey IF Perry was fronting and was headlining act otherwise HELL to the NO! And that would set me back since my family of 6 wait 8 with my parents would want to be there and take in that kind of experience. Dang shame |
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Post by sparkle2 on Apr 10, 2006 8:45:16 GMT -5
I really like Def Leppard but I wouldn't want to see Journey without Steve! It would be too sad. Saw them (Journey) on tv not long ago, it was a joke. Augeri was shuffling around in these unbelievable paisley pants and a girly shirt. It's a wonder they don't have to put up chicken wire in front of the stage, lol. My husband even said "that's the lamest thing I've ever seen - Journey used to really rock."
:-/sparkle
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Post by leducred98 on Apr 10, 2006 10:48:17 GMT -5
Funny my hubby, not a big journey fan but definately listens to them now because of me(perry era)- said 'wow' and shook his head. then asked "do you? " and stopped himself. he has asked me everytime "they" tour and FINALLY he gets it- perry ? no? no see Journey! s |
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. This ONCE great band is having to open for DL what the hell is wrong with this picture 
? I am sadden at the FACT that IF Steve Perry was to return no one would even bother because the new fans have been fooled with the likes of amateurs and money hungry musicians to really notice true talent even if it slapped them in the face. Steve Perry come out and sing/tour solo for WE your fans miss your persona/charisma & beautiful voice dearly 
. I'm sorry that noone listened to you about the cracking of the stone, guess egos do make and break one.
Well I am not a comedian ;D, but it is refreshing to see someone else laugh at my post/comments & jokes beside myself 